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It has a very hard time against plume if it doesnt hit the hex maniac turn 1 and they open with plume. Most Turbo Darks have ~28 items they cant use at that point, including Ultra Ball and Elixer. That as close to insta-loss as turbo dark gets. They're pretty even match-up actually. Both decks...

I think it's fair to say that we can't make a rotation meta call just yet until we know how "The best of X&Y" is going to impact the game. If it's a set of reprints, and Hoopa EX ISN'T in it. Then mega decks are done. But if he is in it, then Mewtwo and Ray are still going to be around.

Also true, M-Alakazam has a lot of variables. Will update my list.

Ok, couple things. 1. Forest of Giant Plants is what makes DeciPlume work, not to mention level ball. And a lot of lists only play 4 DCE as their energy and play Tauros/Lugia as their Attackers. 2. My "Expensive" comment was about the energy costs. None of the other variants have an expensive...

Yes in theory, no in execution. T-tar is way too expensive to work. I'd rather use mega houndoom, and he's expensive.

Apologies, I got the effect backwards, thank you for the correction.

Drop Articuno for Palkia EX. Aqua patch is an easy first turn Aqua Turbo, which can get your ball rolling really quick while laying down damage. Also take Dive Ball out entirely, you don't need that many Pokemon on board to get rolling. Never run Max Elixer at 3, it's 4 or 0. Finally, you rely...

Let me put it to you this way, pair him with cards that can abuse free damage. What I mean by that, is use him to get damage on board for certain numbers, I.e. Lapras with one Owl hits for 180, ohkoing ex's. Two owls ohko's stage 1 GX's. It's all about hitting magic numbers. Which is anywhere...

Here's the Here's the thing though, the whole point behind this thread, is to discuss which is better to focus on. If you focus on Lapras, you're trying to get Palkia out first turn, ready to attack with AT all so you can charge your Lapras' so they can come in and blizzard burn things and tag...

I just don't see many water decks playing him now and focusing him, which I find strange. That's my point of this thread, is to ask the question "Which version of water is better, Lapras focus or Palkia focus?" And you definitely seem Palkia focused.

With the release of SM2, we get access to Aqua Patch, which is a huge buff to water Pokemon. I've had this discussion with a couple people at my locals, but I'd love to know the community's thoughts. Who do you think will be the better water attacker to build a deck around, Palkia EX or Lapras...

Two things here. 1. How can you put Darkrai-Dragons in tier 2 when it won a regional? 2. Passimian is very much like Landorus/Terrakion from the BW-Plasma format, it's an anti-meta deck. It's there because of it's match-ups against the top tier decks. I think tier 3 is a good place for it. The...