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It really is a good deck, it just needs to be more consistent. I've been tinkering around with it, trying to get my set ups faster (more rare candies, altered line numbers, etc.). If it gets set up, and you put the machine in motion, it's very effective. But it still lacks that big hitter, and...

Ok, so here were my results: I went 2 and 7 in the main event, and 3 and 3 in the main side event. Not too good. The main problems I ran into was consistency, and not having any really hard hitting attacks. If I got set up, I did relatively well, but I didn't consistently get my set up...

I like the idea, and even played around with it before, but once I get vileplume up (which I can do about 70% of the time in the first 3-4 turns), all those cards become useless. Also, If I take out a metang, get the lock up, and my other metang is prized, I now only have 1 metagross to work...

Well, I will be taking this deck to nationals. It will probably stay the same, with maybe a small change here or there depending on how testing goes in the next couple days. I will let you know how it does tho :)

Not a bad idea. however, the reason i like muk, is because he has a higher hp (i wish it was just 10 better tho), can actually attack (if you don't have metagross), and it's poison and confuse rather than sleep. If you can get an active stuck there, he will slowly lose hp, so that when you...

Ya. It's a fun deck, and really not that expensive at all. If you are considering it, you can just try it out with proxies first and see how you like it. I have a twins in there before, but when I was able to use it, I normally ended up using it to get energy rather than pokemon, so it seemed...

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played? On it's own, Jirachi isn't too great. His power to give him energy is nice, but since you can only de-evolve any one pokemon once, they will normally just be able to re-evolve when their turn...

These would be good changes if I wasn't running a Trainer Lock deck. The rare candies become useless once i get the lock up, and i only run the 2 i have in case I can get my Vileplume up faster (which I've been able to do a surprising percentage of the time) Also, I'm hesitant to pull out a...

I've changed up the lineup (its right below the original). I originally ran zoroark w/ special dark energy (+10 attack), but moved to metagross instead via suggestions, but that's a good idea for the original list. See if you have any suggestions for the newest build! Thanks

cool. let me know what they say, and if they have any suggestions. so far i have won about 2/3 of my games with this deck, many of them from behind (metagross can end up getting lots of double kos for the comeback). This deck takes some pretty deep strategy sometimes too, and you have to try and...

Ya, I try to play it as if I don't know what the other person has. Which is hard sometimes, because you do know what they have. But I make a decision of my next move based on what I would do in a real life situation given my options (for both sides). However, I may not have the best reshiboar...

RE: Muk Lock (Muk, Mismagius, Zoroark, Vileplume) I've only been able to playtest myself so far, but hopefully I'll get to play some others tomorrow (I always test myself against a Reshiboar deck with Ninetails and Typhlosion, or something similar, as it will be a very popular deck) That is...

RE: Muk Lock (Muk, Mismagius, Zoroark, Vileplume) So here is my newest, updates list: 31 Pokemon 3-3 Muk UD 3-3 Mismagius (2 UL, 1 CL) 3-3-3 Metagross UL 2-2-2 Vileplume UD 4 Cleffa CL 15 T/S/S 4 Elm 3 Collectors 2 Copycat 1 Oak 2 Rare candy 1 Fisherman 2 Seeker 14 Energy 4 DCE 10 Psy...

RE: Muk Lock (Muk, Mismagius, Zoroark, Vileplume) I was lucky to play against somebody who was very knowledgeable with the program my first time playing, so he helped me with anything that needed to be done. It's pretty simple to understand once you get used to it. A lot of times, I actually...

RE: Muk Lock (Muk, Mismagius, Zoroark, Vileplume) I did actually go to a league nearby. I haven't been able to go recently because of other stuff coming up, but I should start being able to go most every week now. However, last time i was there, there were only 2 others besides me, and only...

RE: Muk Lock (Muk, Mismagius, Zoroark, Vileplume) I've been playing for about...idk 2 months? I played for my first time ever about 3 months ago at a convention, and then played for real for the first time at a Black and White Prerelease I would chat, but i have to leave soon. Thanks...

RE: Muk Lock (Muk, Mismagius, Zoroark, Vileplume) Actually, if you could take a look at the other deck I posted on here (it's probably a page or two back now), and let me know what you think, that would be great. It's another annoying, lock-deck, but uses a way different system. It's called...

RE: Muk Lock (Muk, Mismagius, Zoroark, Vileplume) Actually, the way i was playing it with my old list was first bring out Muk to help disrupt while you set up vile. Hopefully he can pull someone w/ a retreat they can't pay, and get the ko. I originally had no way to retreat Muk, so he...

RE: Muk Lock (Muk, Mismagius, Zoroark, Vileplume) Well, I meant pull him out of the active spot, but I just looked up the UL metagross. I never even knew it existed! (just started playing not too long ago) I just assumed Meatagross was always metal, as I have his metal version (Undaunted...

RE: Muk Lock (Muk, Mismagius, Zoroark, Vileplume) How do you pull out Muk to put Metagross in?[hr] Also, I've been finding that 1 thing that can hurt Mismagius is Cleffa. Even if they don't have supporters in their hand, and can't use trainers, Cleffa can give them a clean hand refresh at no...