Emboar and Feraligatr Variants Post-Catcher

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Currently, decks like Reshiram and Magneboar are in the running for BDIF, with other decks like Blastgatr, Samurott or stage one variants of Feraligatr as fairly viable rogue or Tier 2, depending on the deck. The reason they work so well is obvious, but considering how Pokemon Reversal can already be a problem for some of these decks, I really wonder how Pokemon Catcher will be dealt with. Decks like Magneboar, Samurott, and Blastgatr in particular have a problem since they have two stage twos, leaving them open to early game basic kills, unless they can perfectly set up by stage 2 (as I don't think any pokemon outside Pachirisu can score 50 without the help of pluspower by turn 1).

Then of course if setup is achieved quickly, there is still the option to drag out Feraligatr or Emboar. Running Switch is the obvious move, but if the pokemon is KOed, setting up another could be borderline impossible due to another catcher, or recycling one with Junk Arm. Dual stage 2 decks in particular have a problem as they have to babysit another heavy line, and some of them are crammed for space as is.

As someone that's using a couple of these decks, I admit I'm curious as to what can be done for Emboar and Feraligatr variants to survive Catcher, especially stage 2 variants.
 
It will be really hard for stage 2 decks to keep up because of Catcher. I think they'll become less poplular.
 
yeah there's not much your can do if your stage 2 tech that gets dragged up is KO'd before your turn to switch it. right now with reversal, I just set up a second feraligatr/emboar so if they flip heads, I still have a backup. this takes a while though, so I can't always get it done (usually half the time). that's my best advice: set up a second one as quick as possible.

only thing is catcher could do it immediately so it would indeed be harder. just can't use skinny pokemon lines or use vileplume...(lol)
 
I don't find catcher a problem in TyphloRam, in fact.... it's alrdy being played in leagues in here as proxyed. Catcher is overrated. I always try setup another typhlos due i get even better energy loading. Now is Reshiboar's turn to rely on more than just one boar on the field.
 
Catcher will most certainly kill Magneboar, but Reshiboar and KyurumGatr will do just fine. With a couple of Switch included, junk arm makes emboar/gatr less interesting to catch, unless your opponent is planning to kill it;)
 
Ok, nobody said anything about 4 Switch... That would totally kill one's consistency. 2 at the maximum.
 
^Agreed.

I also agree that Magneboar will suffer more from Catcher, but in Reshiboar it's pretty easy to get around it. All you need to do is set-up another Emboar(which is pretty easy in my testing with 4 Rare Candy) and run 2 Switch with 4 Junk Arm. It's very consistent and can beat Catcher before it wrecks you. The only problem I see with Catcher in Reshiboar is them dragging up Ninetales, so you need to RR at least 3 times before they KO it(or just run 2 PONT). This is from someone who plays Reshiboar, Catcher isn't as bad as it sounds against Reshiboar.
 
Yeah so far the best I can think of for Magneboar is using the 70 HP tepig and hope it doesn't get OHKO'ed. Donphan will absolutely murder the other one.
 
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