Something like a counter deck ?

Thraenuios

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Hi people i need to build a deck that is able to counter as many of these decks :

Chen-lock
KingChamp
Vilegar
Charizard

which deck would be the best ?
 
I'd say Blastigatr, since Charizard is weak to water, and you can snipe any Pokemon on your opponent's bench if they are giving you trouble. I'm not familiar with Chen-lock, but I'll assume it's like Sableock. Knocking out their Garchomp C on their bench would be very helpful later on in the game. Though I don't think this deck would do too well against KingChamp, but it's just how you play the game that could save you.
 
Blastigatr would fail to chen-lock based off disruption and speed and Kingchamp will take Blastogatr into a dark alley and do unspeakable things to it. I can't really say much about the VileGar match-up, but either way Blastigatr is not the play.

Gyarados can beat Kingchamp thanks to its numerous recovery options and high damage ouput and it can obviously take out Charizard. Chen-lock...is mangable... but they will send Magikarps back into the deck frequently and control your top-decks, it's unfavourable. VileGar is pretty even, fainting spell cna be avoided but it requires wasting resources just to attack with uxie to finish gengar off to avoid fainting spell, the trainer locking aspect affects gyarados builds based on their build.

if you can't find a deck that can counter all these decks (very hard) then find a deck that has at least a 50/50 match-up against them.
 
ok thx guxys what do you think that i qould play the gyarados ?
I also think about something like machamp SF line with a mass of trainers + 4x ditto la + line of umbreon UD + something to counter kingchamp (dunno what)
 
^I don't think that would work. Plain Gyarados may do OK but don't add so many Techs in.
 
Gyarados is your best option, two of those decks are weak to it, and gyarados shouldn't get that many one pokemon starts (against ChenLock donks are a huge issue), it can dump Trainers from your hand against Vilegar thanks to Regice LA, and if you run special darks with it, it has great donk potential.
 
I'd go with DialgaChomp with a 1/1 Toxitank combo and 2 Quagsire GL instead of your SP matchup techs. I know it is unorthodox (the 2 Quagsires part, not the deck itself), and hard to play, but it wins against KingChamp as soon as you get through the macheaps, and it beats all the other matchups. Zard is slow enough to lock their Fire Formation and beat them up with Quagsire GL, ChenLock should be even/lightly favorable thanks to quagsire, and a well-built DialgaChomp always wins against VileGar. (this is all assuming KingChamp is more King than Champ, and you don't get donked)
 
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