Tropical Tidal Wave

Celebi23

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What does everybody think about this card, now that Evolite and Rocky Helmet are out? It's certainly VERY playable in any deck running Zoroark, or any deck struggling with Zekrom after Evolite's release.

It does annoy me that we have MORE playable worlds promos now, especially since I finally got the money for Tropical Beach.

P.S. After searching for awhile, I'm pretty sure PB doesn't have a scan for this, which is why I used gym's.
 
This card is playable...to an extent. Honestly, it's really really flippy. Fact of the matter being that you may not have any Trainers/Supporters in play, but in the case that you do, this card can really cripple you. I could see this card added into decks that run Reflip-tini, just to give you a better chance of hitting the coin flip as you'd like to.
 
Fliptini only works for attacks.

What cards would you have in play? Obviously don't run it if you're using Rocky Helmet or Evolite yourself. Junk Arm makes it a lot more playable, giving you two or three chances to hit the heads and get a critical knock out.

This is a godsend for Donphan vs Tornadus, and Zoroark vs either Reshiram or Zekrom if you hit heads. You can't do anything to these cards without getting rid of the Evolite somehow, and Stage 1's have enough free space to run it.
 
If this becomes popular, I'd hate a flippy format again -.-

It does seem effective, but the fact that it's like this format's Reversal (sorta kinda) isn't really drawing me in.
 
Celebi23 said:
Fliptini only works for attacks.

What cards would you have in play? Obviously don't run it if you're using Rocky Helmet or Evolite yourself. Junk Arm makes it a lot more playable, giving you two or three chances to hit the heads and get a critical knock out.

Aherpderp

Excuse that fail, I obviously haven't looked at NV scans enough :p

In our current meta, what deck doesn't run Rocky Helmet or Eviolite? Donphan, Gothitelle/Reunicluss/google and Stage One's. The dominating decks (ZPST/Reshiphlosion), will all be running this card. I can see it getting some play in ZPST/Reshiphlosion just for mirror matches against decks that do run Rocky Helmet or Eviolite, but the majority of play it will get (If any), would be in the decks that wouldn't be using it. And that deck-pool is very limited.
 
I would run it as a 2 of max. Its a godly card for Donphan, but if you hit tails its a real bummer, especailly if you rely on it. I would seriously run this card though, its amazing exept for the bad side effect, but its play-around-able.
 
The dominating decks are Reshiram and Zekrom? This is certainly news to me. I wouldn't play it in either Reshiram or Zekrom, because if you flip tails it hurts too much.

Gothitelle will LOVE this card if Helmet gets popular. Under normal circumstances, you'd have to fully charge an extra Gothitelle for each Rocky Helmet Reshi/Zek gets into play. One good flip and you remove every Helmet from their board, and sweep as usual. It's especially a godsend in 30+3.

I admit Magnezone doesn't get a huge amount of use out of it. However, Yanmega/Magnezone can use this to remove Evolites from Durant's board and open up OHKOs for Yanmega.

If Kyurem gets popular, it can make some use out of this card to remove Reshiram and Zekrom's Evolites.

Decks using Zoroark get so many options as soon as your opponent knows the card is in your deck. Even if you don't play it, they won't want to have more than one Evolite out at a time, meaning you can hit the Catcher, PlusPowers, or Tropical Tidal Wave heads for the KO.
 
Yeah, I see this card being excellent in Gothitelle, because Rocky Helmet will be very played. I'm not going to bother trading for Tropical Tidal Wave, because it isn't going to make or break a deck, but I can definitely see it becoming popular in at least a few decks. Good find.

Edit: Ah, I make some stupid typos sometimes.
 
Vulpix Yolk said:
Yeah, I see this card being excellent in Gothitelle, because Rocky Helmet will be very played. I'm not going to bother trading for Tropical Wind Wave, because it isn't going to make or break a deck, but I can definitely see it becoming popular in at least a few decks. Good find.
I wouldn't ever bother trading for Tropical Wind Wave either. I hate fakers. Tropical Tidal Wave, on the other hand, I would give serious thought to trying to trade for. :p

Anyway, it wasn't really my find. I saw a couple posts on 'gym about it.
 
While I agree the card has potentional, the coin flip ruins it's goal in my opinion. In terms of ''points'' this would easily be a ''1 for 2'', but worst case (judging by a ''normal'' game) it can become a ''3 for 0'' (but as stated you'd only play it if there's little risk to it for yourself).

While it opens up a lot of options for a lot of other cards, you can't rely on it consistently. It can be a game changer if you get lucky, but since you don't have a 100% guarantee you get at least something off the field, I think it's a card that can be ''thrown in'' a deck if you have spare space for it (which decks have that nowadays, really?), or as a tech if your meta is full of Tropical Beaches, Eviolites, and Rocky Helmet (I know these cards are everywhere, but they still can see more/less play depending on your meta). Besides, because of the coin flip I'd say use at least two copies of these in your deck, if you plan on any at all (of course this also depends on how Junk Arm-heavy your deck is, and how big Trainer lock in your meta is).

It surely is a nice find, and when the spoilers of Eviolite and Rocky Helmet came out a friend of mine also thought of this card, but since none of us like coin flips, we decided not to test it. It will on no way be what Tropical Beach is to Gothitelle and The Truth/googlebox, but it most certainly will be a great (flippy) addition to decks that struggle against Eviolite and Rocky Helmet (when I play my Gothitelle deck I find my opponent rarely wanting to discard it, and rather abuse it itself sometimes as well).
 
Vulpix Yolk said:
Yeah, I see this card being excellent in Gothitelle, because Rocky Helmet will be very played. I'm not going to bother trading for Tropical Tidal Wave, because it isn't going to make or break a deck, but I can definitely see it becoming popular in at least a few decks. Good find.

Edit: Ah, I make some stupid typos sometimes.

Rocky Helmet will not be played.

My ZPST article said:
Rocky Helmet is another tech for Gothitelle, but I'm not so sure about it. The point is to attach it to a Pokemon before trainer lock begins, so that once Gothitelle attacks it, Gothitelle takes twenty damage. Then, send up a Zekrom and use Bolt Strike for knockout. It seems really good on paper, but many things could go wrong. The biggest problem I see is that if Gothitelle gets trainer lock up before Rocky Helmet can be attached, and Rocky Helmet is your only tech, you've already lost because you can't attack Rocky Helmet under lock. Pokémon Catcher is another problem. Using Pokémon Catcher, the Gothitelle player can bring up benched Pokémon to knockout, thus avoiding Rocky Helmet.
 
I think this could get great for a few decks. But it's a world promo, so I doubt it'll become a staple or even a common tech. It's too rare imo (But I'm not positive on this cards price).
Notice how Gothitelle does well with both this and the most recent Worlds promo? That's ironic. But yeah, if you got it, this could be a great card.
 
It's not that rare... It was released 3 different years, so essentially 3 times easier to find than Tropical Beach
 
I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure Tropical Wind was released until 2010, then this was released, then Tropical Beach, so there was only one year it was printed, just like 'Beach.

I know I have '09 Tropical Wind promos, so it for sure wasn't released that year.

But, rarity of a card has nothing to do with how good it is. However, it's inevitably going to get some downhype from people who don't have it and can't get it.
 
Worlds '04: Wind
Worlds '05: Tidal Wave
Worlds '06: Tidal Wave
Worlds '07: Wind
Worlds '08: Wind
Worlds '09: Wind
Worlds '10: Tidal Wave (Not being released again because of the Tsunami in Japan)
Worlds '11: Beach

Rarity only affects cost, which is why I posted about it
 
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